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Post  Ellen-Natalie Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:34 pm

This story arc goes back to High School, featuring Alice

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And here's a sneak peak at the first page:

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Post  Latrans Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:33 pm

I get the feeling that we are going to love to hate on her. Razz
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Post  Rising Blue Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:44 pm

That sketch makes me think she's trying to beat Diana at her own game here.
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Post  Ellen-Natalie Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:17 pm

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Alice truly believes this.
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Post  Rising Blue Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:50 pm

Nice. Mirroring the start of Diana's arc.

I'm guessing this will be told mainly from Alice's POV?
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Post  Latrans Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:44 am

I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of mentally stable people consider themselves a "good person". It largely has to do with how they view themselves and their actions. Take, for example, Diana. She has played the part of the 'hero' previously. Her ambitions, goals, friendships and challenges are all maximized while any flaws are minimized. how different would the story play if we do the opposite? I had a bunch written about that, but realized I might be fortelling the new arc so I deleted it. Suffice to say "I think we're going to find out." Very Happy
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Post  The J.A.M. Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:45 am

"Good"? Yeah, right...
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Post  Bayrain Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:35 pm

Trying to convince herself she is good even though she knows deep down inside she can't.
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Post  Cutekitty Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:02 am

One of my awesome fiction professors has always insisted that a writer cannot see their characters as "good" or "bad," or as "sympathetic" and "unsympathetic." Only "complicated." Because that's what people are, and that's what makes them feel real and alive and interesting and what drives a story. This is kind of going off what Latrans said: most people will see themselves as protagonists (or as "good people") in their own lives, and which person the story follows influences how it portrays the characters and events. So as a writer and an analytically minded reader, I'm curious to see how Alice sees things (such as herself; she is telling the audience and/or herself that she is a good person, but what is her reasoning behind that, and why does she feel the need to say it?) and how her character may become more complex and fleshed out in this arc.

...But as a human reader I can totally get swept up in my visceral reactions to characters and become a Judging McJudgeypants. Especially with characters who exhibit/have exhibited superficial and/or catty behavior, which is one of my pet peeves and something that, if taken too far or handled poorly (especially in a stereotypical high-school-drama-esque way), feels not only exasperating but also flat-out unrealistic to me. 'Course, this is Ms. Natalie's work we're talking about, so I trust whatever of that may be present will be handled well. But depending on how Alice is portrayed here, I'll have either new-found interest in her or escalated dislike. Or maybe both. Razz I look forward to finding out!
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Post  Ellen-Natalie Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:02 am

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Page 410: Alice goes about her day
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Post  Mr. Cardinal Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:47 am

Oh goody, I like meeting characters families. pirat
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Post  kanna172003 Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:37 pm

Bayrain wrote:Trying to convince herself she is good even though she knows deep down inside she can't.


Nobody is evil in their own mind
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Post  Rising Blue Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:19 pm

Just started wondering, females of that breed wear their ears like long hair, but what do the males do?
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Post  Mr Ed Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:05 pm

Reeally long side-burns? Cool

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Post  Mr Ed Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:06 pm

kanna172003 wrote:
Bayrain wrote:Trying to convince herself she is good even though she knows deep down inside she can't.
Nobody is evil in their own mind
"I'm a good person.  ...when I want to be!" Smile

...she's still pretty though!... Wink

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Post  Ellen-Natalie Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:05 pm

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Post  The J.A.M. Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:35 pm

Geez, how long ago was this?
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Post  Rising Blue Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:22 am

Hopefully, Diana won't show them up this time.
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Page 411: Alice has a modest view of herself.
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Post  Rubin_West Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:39 am

Hmmm, Which witch is which? Rolling Eyes

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Post  The J.A.M. Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:25 am

Someone certainly has a high opinion of herself...
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Post  Bayrain Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:34 am

Hm... looks a like case of mistaken views on ones personal life.
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Post  Latrans Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:08 pm

I don't think this is a case of "mistaken views" nearly so much as it is opposing viewpoints. If not for the previous arc featuring Diana, I strongly suspect we would be rooting for Alice at the moment (even if wondering what horror is about to befall her world view). The point being that Alice may very well try to lead a good, productive life but because Diana's arc was from Diana's perspective, we didn't get to see it. From the other side, the situation may look very different.
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Post  Bayrain Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:51 pm

[quote="Latrans"]I don't think this is a case of "mistaken views" nearly so much as it is opposing viewpoints. If not for the previous arc featuring Diana, I strongly suspect we would be rooting for Alice at the moment (even if wondering what horror is about to befall her world view). The point being that Alice may very well try to lead a good, productive life but because Diana's arc was from Diana's perspective, we didn't get to see it. From the other side, the situation may look very different.[/quote]
I couldn't find the right words, but yeah you hit the nail on the head.
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